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Last Post 01 Jan 1900 12:00 AM by  Anonymous
Early Ruger Handguns
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flatgate
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03 Mar 2008 02:16 PM
    Here's an image scanned from the Aug. '56 Argosy magazine. There are a few very interesting guns
    pictured here!!! I really like the unfluted cylinder .44 Blackhakw!
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/3796227/306899454.jpg[/img]

    Any ideas where that gun is today?? Is it one of the ""X"" numbered examples?
    Here's a pic of s/n X3. Note the ""Legend"" rollmark. It differs from what we see on the
    .44 Flattops in our collections.
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/3796227/237037126.jpg[/img]

    Thanks,

    flatgate
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    brass frame
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    03 Mar 2008 08:42 PM
    Carl,
    That is a very intersting picture, I must admit that I have never seen that one. I too would like to know what .44 Flat Top had this early non fluted cylinder? I thought only the very late .44s had some of the Super Blackhawk parts!? Do I also see that one of the .44 FTs has walnut panels and the other has hard rubber panels?
    Good stuff, now I will have to chase this issue of the magazine.

    Lee E.
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    John C. Dougan
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    04 Mar 2008 12:05 PM
    Carl - thanks for the post. It is hard to tell, but the flat top to the far left may be Mr. Ruger's Jerred engraved .357 Blackhawk. Somewhere in my files I have a clipping from an old magazine that shows a group of guns spread out on a shooting bench, one of them is an ""X"" .44 Blackhawk fitted with what appears to be a 5 1/2"" barrel.

    Verbal history is that there were several barrel configurations of the .44 Blackhawk, the original prototype guns were made using .357 Blackhawk cylinder frames. I understand that Ruger let Keith take one from the 1956 NRA display but, later he returned it and they replaced it with the 4 5/8"" gun built on a large frame.

    I hope to learn more about these guns in the near future. I'll keep you posted.

    John
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    Doc44
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    04 Mar 2008 01:04 PM
    44 Magnum Blackhawk with a 5 1/2-inch barrel and serial number X2 was featured in an article by Charles Askins in the 1957 Gun Digest. The main comment about the revolver was the cylinder pin shot loose and was thrown out of the revolver on the ""fifth and last blast"".

    Bill
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    flatgate
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    04 Mar 2008 11:46 PM
    [quote=""John C. Dougan""] the flat top to the far left may be Mr. Ruger's Jerred engraved .357 Blackhawk. I understand that Ruger let Keith take one from the 1956 NRA display but, later he returned it and they replaced it with the 4 5/8"" gun built on a large frame.
    I hope to learn more about these guns in the near future. I'll keep you posted.
    John[/quote]
    Maybe this gun??
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/3796227/45707982.jpg[/img]

    Oh, and WBR said OK to Keith's getting one of the small framed .44's but Keith didn't get the gun.
    Keith's [i]Sixguns[/i], Second Edition Oct. '61 pages 320 and 321 tells the story. Elmer
    wanted the 4-5/8 inch early .44 but said he'd only shoot .44 Specials since his ""Keith"" bullet
    handloads were too long for the .44's short cylinder. The Ruger workers at the show got the
    display's guns packed up before Elmer came by to get the gun and it was said the gun would
    be sent to Idaho. WBR decided to ""proof"" the three samples and one ""let go"". So, as we
    students of the Blackhawk now know, Elmer ended up with a custom made .44 Blackhawk,
    one with a 4-5/8 inch barrel. I've always wondered if that gun is the one pictured in the
    image below....however the gun in Elmer's hands has a MR3-DB grip frame and what appears
    to be Ivory grips!!!!
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/5401634/127511183.jpg[/img]

    Ah, the mysteries of Ruger Collecting!

    Carl
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    flattop44
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    05 Mar 2008 11:26 PM
    Has anyone seen the Elmer Keith display at Cabella's in Boise, ID (I think that it is Cabellas). I wondered if this gun was in the display there.
    Bill
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    flatgate
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    04 Apr 2008 10:36 AM
    I've yet to get over there. I've read several accounts of the display and have not heard of anyone reporting seeing any Flattops. Of course,
    most are so enamored over the famous #5 Revolver that not much else is discussed! Elmer's 4 ivory gripped S&W's are there, though, since
    the current issue of American Handgunner magazine's article on the Display contains an image of the foursome.

    Elmer's Flatgate is out there. I was involved in a good discussion with the current owner and did receive a few images.
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/5401634/69098760.jpg[/img]
    [img]http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL437/657373/5401634/241827893.jpg[/img]

    Note the straightened trigger and the Gun Reblu Company ""round loading gate"". Keith's [i]Sixguns[/i] pictures other Single-Sixes with
    Gun ReBlu Company loading gates AND engraving. Ah, but that's a story for another day.

    Carl
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